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		<title>By: uG</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>uG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is CakePHP and CodeIgniter ?</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Liu</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeremy, just emailed you the benchmark code, please review and post back your valuable thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeremy, just emailed you the benchmark code, please review and post back your valuable thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Bush</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to see the source code of these benchmarks, and how you did the database code. That memory number seems awfully high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see the source code of these benchmarks, and how you did the database code. That memory number seems awfully high.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Liu</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kee,
Thanks for your comment, we haven&#039;t tried doophp before, however we strongly believe the real world performance of doophp would not out perform the others by that much. As you may notice in our test, pure php mysql connection is only 40% faster than the Yii Framework. Unless cache mechanism is involved, we would be amazed to find any database abstraction would actually be faster than pure php mysql connection.
It may be 5 or more times faster in producing the &#039;Hello World&#039; page, which only hit the frameworks view/action controller. We believe you need to take other components into consideration while doing a real test-case. In most the real world projects caching would be the final determinate factor of &#039;performance&#039; (at a users point of view), that really matters most. In other words, if you know how to tweak caching on all database, page, assets, media levels, any framework should really be the same, in terms of serving pages (cached).
Therefore, what really matters to a framework would not so much in performance, but really lies on the feature set and support.
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kee,<br />
Thanks for your comment, we haven&#8217;t tried doophp before, however we strongly believe the real world performance of doophp would not out perform the others by that much. As you may notice in our test, pure php mysql connection is only 40% faster than the Yii Framework. Unless cache mechanism is involved, we would be amazed to find any database abstraction would actually be faster than pure php mysql connection.<br />
It may be 5 or more times faster in producing the &#8216;Hello World&#8217; page, which only hit the frameworks view/action controller. We believe you need to take other components into consideration while doing a real test-case. In most the real world projects caching would be the final determinate factor of &#8216;performance&#8217; (at a users point of view), that really matters most. In other words, if you know how to tweak caching on all database, page, assets, media levels, any framework should really be the same, in terms of serving pages (cached).<br />
Therefore, what really matters to a framework would not so much in performance, but really lies on the feature set and support.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Kee Chien</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Kee Chien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone ever use doophp? Just curious about its benchmark http://doophp.com/benchmark . Would anyone verify this? thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone ever use doophp? Just curious about its benchmark <a href="http://doophp.com/benchmark" rel="nofollow">http://doophp.com/benchmark</a> . Would anyone verify this? thanks</p>
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		<title>By: darwin</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx for your review about PHP framework, before read this, i&#039;m confuse which framework that i must use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx for your review about PHP framework, before read this, i&#8217;m confuse which framework that i must use.</p>
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		<title>By: PHP Frameworks Comparison Summary &#171; Allan on Web</title>
		<link>http://blog.orite.com.au/web_development/2009-01-17/php-frameworks-comparison-test/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>PHP Frameworks Comparison Summary &#171; Allan on Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PHP Frameworks Comparison Test, Choosing a PHP Framework Round 2, Comparison of PHP frameworks – Part I, PHP framework [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gerd,
Thanks for your comment, to my knowledge of Symfony (pre 1.0) it would be lot slower than Yii for sure in terms of output performance. However to evaluate a framework you may want to consider other aspects as well, ie. available tool sets, community activity/support, speed of delivery, deployment, code maintenance, etc. I&#039;d recommend you to try out Yii framework, to see the differences yourself. I believe Yii would certainly please you in quite few things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gerd,<br />
Thanks for your comment, to my knowledge of Symfony (pre 1.0) it would be lot slower than Yii for sure in terms of output performance. However to evaluate a framework you may want to consider other aspects as well, ie. available tool sets, community activity/support, speed of delivery, deployment, code maintenance, etc. I&#8217;d recommend you to try out Yii framework, to see the differences yourself. I believe Yii would certainly please you in quite few things.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to also test the Symfony framework http://www.symfony-project.org. I have been using it for a while now but am curious about Yii, which claims much higher performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to also test the Symfony framework <a href="http://www.symfony-project.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.symfony-project.org</a>. I have been using it for a while now but am curious about Yii, which claims much higher performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Wei, it would be interesting to know the local developer and possibly have a chat with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Wei, it would be interesting to know the local developer and possibly have a chat with.</p>
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